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Critique Stamp by Reitanna-Seishin Critique Stamp by Reitanna-Seishin
people often do not understand that some people literally cannot handle criticism. want to know why? because we already criticize ourselves SO HEAVILY, people often tell us, "don't be so hard on yourself." for us, there is not "constructive criticism," because we've already brought ourselves down so much, anything from someone else just makes us go, "well great, it's even worse than i thought. seems i can't do anything fuckin right." this occurs mostly in people like me who have a mental illness that causes depression. this is not something we can control. our minds take it the hardest way, and instead of helping us, it hinders us even more, as if we were being insulted. and you know what? sometimes people DO insult us when we kindly tell them that we don't want criticism. they say, "if you don't want to be criticized, then don't come on to the internet." but that's the thing, there's a common respect that human beings much have toward each other. did you ask the person if you could offer criticism? did they ask you for it? if they didn't, it should be automatically assumed that they don't want any. you never know what kind of mind you might be damaging if you don't respect another person's boundaries.

DA, thankfully, has a feature where you can request critique (for core users.) if it's NOT there, and the uploader is a core user, you are not invited to give critique. for non core users, read the description. do they say, "please give me critique?" if not, you have the right to ask if they want it, but one should never assume that EVERYONE wants it. for those of us that are our own worst critic, we KNOW what we need to work on, and we don't need anyone else telling us how bad it is. we work on our problems ourselves, and that's how we grow. seriously, there's no way you CAN'T see improvement in our work.

another problem is, sometimes people offer "criticism" on something they don't understand. when the artist purposefully does something, and ONE person doesn't get it, does that mean it should be fixed? no, because that's how the artist chose to do it. THERE ARE NO RULES IN CREATIVITY. if YOU want criticism, good for you, but don't assume everyone thinks the same way you do. again, this is common respect for our fellow man that we all should practice. if we don't ask for it, don't give it. if you give it, and we say we don't want it, don't insult us for it. when you do, it causes problems to both parties, but can be detrimental if one of them already has an unstable psyche. we must respect our differences, even if they seem weird to us. we must be fair, because when you are fair and respectful, YOU will receive the same fairness and respect because you earned it.

generosity is the best form of greed.
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ANBU-Kosuke Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2016  Hobbyist
Not that I would critique someone, who didn't ask.
Because that's actually quite a bit to much work
for something they don't want to hear anyways.

But I don't see the reason to upload something that I find bad either.
For what? For people to say it's awesome when it's not? To waste space?

I rather keep those as my personal treasures
and improve to a point I find at least acceptable myself.

If I put art at a public real life place,
people will come and say their opinions too,
and there will be hate too, as art taste differs.
Or they put graffiti over it even.

You can't expect people to shut up in a public space.
I express myself as they express their opinion about it.
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I think you completely missed the point
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SALT--WATER Featured By Owner Edited May 16, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I generally don't criticise people because I think a lot of people like to learn from their own mistakes and such as well, How ever I do give my opinions and thoughts if someone seriously needs its, specially if they are going to post their work on a public art sharing site were opinions are allowed to be expressed,  and I usually only avoid those who come off as too easily sensitive on the subject matter and won't ever admit their content needs to be fixed up. but some people seriously need to learn that not all criticism is bullying. sadly I admit there are those who will be just straight up jerks to peoples material when it comes to criticism.
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RevixArts Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank for this Rei, this is very true for a lot of people. I'm glad I could see this today because it kinda made someone who was destroying my art think for a second. Thanks again Rei for knocking common sense into some one also, continue being awesome.
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Meadowlark555 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I totally agree.  Rei, you have such a way with words!
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
:)
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The-Dorito-Butler Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Hobbyist Filmographer
I´m fine with constructive criticism, but the keyword is ´constructive´, if you´re going to be a critic at least give me some advice on how to improve instead of nitpicking my flaws and using it as an excuse to be a dick to people.
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
sometimes even the word "constructive" doesn't mean anything to them. they claim to be giving constructive criticism, yet their words just point out problems, and some of those problems aren't problems at all, they were MEANT to be there
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The-Dorito-Butler Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2016  Hobbyist Filmographer
I know right? They literally miss the definition of 'constructive.' There's also a way to word criticism. It's not all about pointing out flaws, it's about how you can help an artist to progress and take small steps to get better. When I give criticism, although I can be guilty of being blunt, I make sure that the comment is just honest instead of asskissing or being a dick. I also make sure to be nice and mix it with compliments on what they did well on the art, as no one likes a negative nancy.

I can understand that, the intentional placements with characters such as the way an ear is shaped, or how some eyes are bigger or smaller than usual. In reality that's one of my intentions, especially with different nose shapes and facial structures, as I don't want to suffer from same face syndrome and add some diversity in my characters.

Sometimes some characters are supposed to be like that, such as my mascot. One time someone said that they have really dark shading under their eyes and it gave off the creepy illusion, I said it was somewhat intentional as they were supposed to have insomnia, which rooted off from the variations of anxiety. But they took it well and understood. I guess with me I just avoid snapping at people and if people are being dickish, I just ignore them. It gives them no reason for their actions and boosts my reputation, as a lot of artists are known for not taking it very well, which just attracts trolls. I only block when it gets to the point of spamming or harassment.
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I never give criticism unless someone asks for it. when I AM asked for it, I tell them straight up, "I am blunt and brutally honest. it is very possible I might say something that will offend you, even if that's not my intention. would you still like my critique?" if they say yes, I too won't just point out flaws, I point out what they did very well on. when I point out flaws, I give examples of how they probably should look, usually in proportions. but many people have many different styles, so I make sure to tell them that I liked how they stylized it, and they should not change that. if they tell me something is supposed to be a certain way, I say, "alright," and move on to something else. so far, no one has been displeased, but I often tell people I don't like to give critique because I might be too harsh.
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The-Dorito-Butler Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2016  Hobbyist Filmographer
Well that's a perfectly fair way to put things across, it's nice to give them a little warning because then the ball is in their court. If they know that you're going to be blunt, then it's their responsibility on how they're going to take it.

It's actually very rare that I give critique, I give it more to my friends, as it warms my heart to see their desires to improve their skills, but occasionally I give it to people I don't know, and it's more on people's YouTube than anything else, especially if they're trying to start something off. (I love to give a bit of friendly advice, such as audio quality and video structure.)

But eitherway, that method is a nice and simple way to give critique, I say that's perfectly fine and you should keep going with that :)
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah, i'll usually give audio advice without asking to first, but it's short, sweet, and to the point. "for the future, you may want to adjust your audio levels a bit."
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The-Dorito-Butler Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2016  Hobbyist Filmographer
That's great! I had problems with my audio every now and then and I was told to get a better mic, which I have. I've also removed background noise on audacity, and it is much better now. If it wasn't for someone pointing it out, I probably wouldn't have noticed.. :aww: It's also a proven point that constructive criticism and being a dick are two different areas, sometimes it may be something that someone hasn't noticed, which is why people should be careful about what they're saying when it comes to helping others.
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah, for me, I KNEW I needed a better mic for a few years, and I finally got one. soooooo much better
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OctarinePegacorn Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Student Writer
Honestly, the only really good advice/criticism I've gotten on my writing has been from my teachers and English majors. When other people, even some my friends, critique my stuff I sometimes feel like they don't really get the context, for example. I do like good critiques, but they have to be from someone who actually wants me to write better, not someone who just heaps praise on me or nitpicks at things because they don't really like the genre or whatever.
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
oh, good point, I've always had EXTREMELY helpful critique from teachers, especially my English teachers when it came to writing. in fact, a lot of my skills have come from their advice. when it's someone who doesn't understand your concepts, their criticism seems so nit picky, like it needs to fit specifically to them. I feel like the idea of critique has been misconstrued by the younger generation, hence why many people think insulting someone's work is "constructive criticism."
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CreepyMax123 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016
Thank you, that's all I'm gonna say
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janfon1 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I Uhhh  Well, uh... To someone who knows how to handle criticism, this speech is more like a rant to me rather than anything else. Especially the last sentence about generosity, just by looking at it I can feel the negativity pulsing out of it like radiation. So I'll just pass and not expand this topic.
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
long comment ahead...

you'd be very wrong, especially with the last sentence. in fact, nothing about the overall description is truly negative, and I'm not sure how you can't see that. I am talking about respecting others for being different, and to not just assume everyone is going to react how you would in that situation. we are all human, we're all the same color on the inside, but our minds are very different. if we don't respect each other, then all that remains is senseless hate that has no justification. hostility without a reason is pointless, and doesn't it just feel good to give kindness, and then receive it?

um... not to be rude, but you can feel the negativity pulsing off of it like radiation? don't you think that's a little over dramatic? especially when the phrase itself is nothing but positive.

think about this: what do we get when we give? people give back. if we are GENEROUS with giving respect, kindness, and civility, we will receive those in return, like a reward. all of those rewards make us feel good, and don't we want to feel good? don't we get GREEDY when things make us happy? therefore, when you are being generous, you're doing it for yourself, because making other people feel good causes them to return the favor, making you feel good. selflessness is selfishness, generosity is the best form of greed.

as for your first part, hunny, you obviously missed the point. "to someone who knows how to handle criticism..." that phrase alone is disrespectful. what you meant to say was, "to someone who is able to receive criticism." I said very clearly in the speech (not a rant, hun, learn the difference) that different minds handle different things at different levels. let's pretend there was a car crash. it wasn't so bad that somebody died, but most of the people involved got pretty injured. one of these people will heal, get back on their feet, and be able to get in a car again no problem. a few of these people will feel a little nervous about being in a car, but they'll get over it quickly. a couple people will take a little longer to get over the anxiety, but one of these people will fear cars completely, and panic whenever they are in one. you see? each person was affected by the same accident, but at different levels.

words are no different. let's take three people who have each been called "hideously ugly." one of them will shove it off, and it will never bother them. the second will be hurt by it, but will eventually move passed it. the third will be so damaged by the remark, he/she will believe that they are ugly, coming to the conclusion that they are worthless, and shouldn't even be alive. the third person may even kill themselves.

why does this happen? it depends both on how our brains developed, and on our environment. some people are born with no health issues, and grow up in a nice stable home. no financial issues, great parents, great in school, hardly picked on, and overall, life is good. some people are born healthy, but the home is a little less together. not enough money, parents that fight and maybe get divorced, a few bullies here and there... this causes more strain on them than the ones with "perfect" lives, for lack of a better term. then you have people born with physical or mental problems, but the home is stable, supporting parents, though health bills are pretty high. even though the family is supportive, are the peers? no, because people like to make fun of the disabled. this adds even greater stress.

then there are people like me; born with physical or mental problems into a broken home. as children, we watch our parents fight so violently, they nearly kill each other. one or both parents do drugs and drink heavily, and one or both physically and emotionally abuse their child. one or both of the parents is also mentally ill, and combined with substance abuse, they cannot keep a job, so there's hardly any income. the medication we need is not available because mommy or daddy has to have their drugs. we're not free from the abuse until the police take us away from our parents, that is, IF they take us away. some people aren't so lucky. however, that's just at home. at school, we have to deal with constant bullies because we are not right in the head, and we are already emotionally broken from people who were supposed to love us. we tend to cry more, and that makes the bullying worse. it doesn't matter when we're in a nice foster home, the bullying never stops, yet we have to try and stay strong. if we're lucky, we can get the health care we need to treat our disability. even so, the damage has been done, we're passed the critical period, and we cannot be fixed.

lastly, there are the people who... well, as unlucky people like me are, doesn't compare to how unlucky these people are... born with disabilities into a broken home, endure parents fighting, abusing, and even possible rape. these children need help, but their parents don't work, and what little money they have, they spend on drugs. these children may NEVER see freedom until they are eighteen and can leave on their own. mommy makes meth in the kitchen, forcing them to taste it for her. daddy is in the living room watching pornography, and he asks them to be a good kid and sit on daddy's lap. growing up, they are hardly able to understand how things work in the real world because they weren't prepared. they dropped out of school, started doing drugs themselves due to early addiction, and may never get a job at all. they might become criminals. years of sexual abuse will turn them into rapists, and some will turn into murderers. these people need to have a HUGE stroke of luck to survive, and an even bigger stroke of luck to be able to live a normal life.

do you see? because of all of these differences caused by nature AND nurturing, we do not handle the same situations the same. this is why there's common respect. we must think about what others might be going through, because there's a HUGE possibility they could be living in a literal hell. an abused child who is told all her life that she'll never amount to anything, that she's a failure, that she'll be begging family for money, get pregnant at sixteen, find herself abused by a man she falls in love with... do you think that person will be able to "handle" general criticism given by someone who they don't even know? it's extremely disrespectful to assume that they'll take it well, because YOU don't know what their life may've been like. it's not your place to pry into people's psyche.

that's why it is ALWAYS important to ask someone if they would LIKE critique. it's just courtesy. if the person doesn't want it, then leave it be. I'm honestly a little concerned about your comment. I get the feeling that you haven't thought about the crucial differences in humanity. it's not my business to pry, of course, so I could be wrong. I just hope now you understand why there are people who can't "handle" criticism. it's not that we don't know how, it's that we CAN'T. our brains do not receive those messages the same as people like you. we are wired differently, and NOTHING can change it. that's why respect is so important.
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janfon1 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So... This comment was supposed to be much longer than it is now, but it was all a matter of emotions influencing my thoughts. I began with being spooked, confused, afraid to write down anything, and ended with this lil' thingy.

Yea, I didn't exactly think about the crucial differences in humanity, as much as I were close-minded and thought it was more related to your recent problem with Minkie Pie being a redraw and such, and that giving you motivation to create this stamp. You have to let out your emotions somewhere, and this I know from experience.
Nonetheless, I appreciate you took your time to explain to me what I didn't understand, such as the entire philosophy behind "generosity being the best form of greed", or the topic of different people having different lives. It all makes more sense, now that I see what was your idea behind this stamp (especially that last sentence, that I didn't exactly understood, thanks again for clearing that up for me).


By the way, the "negativity pulsing out like radiation" part was just me being a writer and liking to describe certain things in a non-simplistic, unique way. This is how my young under-aged optimistic soul describes it, but I'm assured that you, as a pretty good writer, will think similarly.

Filthy Frank No-03 and now we wait...
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
well, they actually said she was a recolor, but I was able to prove them wrong. THAT wasn't criticism, that was them trying to make me angry. I made this stamp as an overall thing, because I've experienced these scenarios more than once, and I KNOW I'm not the only one. actually, I was surprised I was getting so many people in the comments who agree, and that makes me think, "wow, people really don't understand that some of us can't register their criticism right." some people may call us over sensitive, but they don't understand the differences I explained to you. you don't know how relieved I was to see your response to it. I feel joy when I'm able to communicate my thoughts properly and help other people see things from different perspectives.

but stamps are a nice, short way to express a certain feeling, and other people who agree can use them too. the more we voice our thoughts and feelings, the more it'll encourage people to stop hiding who they are because they'll realize they're not as weak as they feel. will it change how people treat others? maybe not, but if I can give even ONE person confidence in themselves, I can die happy. it's because I'm selfish. XD
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CoollolkidOnDevi-art Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
same
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Melanie-sama Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Student Artist
Ooh boy, this one hits close to home. :D
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GeneralSnuggles Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
This kinda reminds me of a quote by Samuel L. Jackson:

"I don't need your attitude; I have one of my own."

Though, your issue isn't really an "attitude" problem - or, is it? idk; I'm not that well-versed in psychological stuff :P
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
lol that's a good quote.

did you know that a large percentage of people don't trust stairs? it's because they're always up to something. *BU-DUM TSS!*
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GeneralSnuggles Featured By Owner Edited Mar 28, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Really? Never knew that :o

...

That reminds me of the guy who vowed to NEVER visit a flea market. He always said that if he wanted fleas, he could get them for free by petting his neighbor's dog.

;P
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
XD
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Yunama Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
THANK YOU! thank you so much! finally someone else feels the same way i do! :D
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RoseWolf2022 Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2016
I have to agree with this
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Jakeapony Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2016  Student Digital Artist
Sorry you feel that way. 
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fatalframe16 Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2016  Student
Well you're not wrong Meow :3 
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sleepy-bella-1583 Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
It's the truth, no mater how many people deny it.

"You NEED to be critiqued by others. You'll NEVER grow without being critiqued."
If that's the case, then I see no reason to redraw ANYTHING. Barely anyone gives me negative critiques on my art. When some one does critique my art, it's always the most nit picky stuff every. "Her arm should have been more to the right." That's a real comment I have recieved on my old account. 

I redraw art because I find something wrong with it. For example, the body looking weird.
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Reitanna-Seishin Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
exactly. i used to draw thighs really short, and shins super long. well, i definitely got over that, and that's because I found it was a problem, not by someone else telling me so.
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